Before discussing politics with anyone, you must first know who they consider their family, or at least the circle of people they give the slightest fuck about. For some it’s just themselves, for others it can be themselves and their spouse(s), or parents, or children, or siblings, or community, or nation, or race, or sex, or sexual orientation. For some, it’s all of humanity against the elements, and for some it’s all living creatures – either just animals, or also plants.

If you don’t know who and what the other person gives a fuck about, there is no hope for consensus, since what is a desirable outcome for some is not always so for others, so debating the merits of any rule, policy or situation only makes sense if you are sure you are aiming for the same results.